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Poster: Longnstrange Date: Aug 17, 2010 10:48am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: The Grateful Dead peak in 89-90...as per Bobby

As I have said, they got better until Brent died. Then it was over.

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Poster: Cliff Hucker Date: Aug 17, 2010 12:16pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: The Grateful Dead peak in 89-90...as per Bobby

Guess we know when you got on the bus, LOL!

Your posts never fail to entertain...

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Poster: smokinchains Date: Aug 17, 2010 1:08pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: The Grateful Dead peak in 89-90...as per Bobby

You gotta look at it from Bob's perspective. It's not "he's a jerk, go listen to '73". Think about it. JG was almost dead in '86. They come back in '87 and hit the big time with Touch, although maybe musically they weren't quite there yet. In '89-90 Bob feels that they found their stride after the coma, were more successful commercially than they ever were before, living more comfortably but still doing things their way.

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Poster: grendelschoice Date: Aug 17, 2010 1:50pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: The Grateful Dead peak in 89-90...as per Bobby

"Peak" is kind of misleading as a term.

Every Deadhead has his/her feeling on when the band hit its high point and then dropped off. For some, it's not a day past 1969, and for others (like me) the ultimate high point year is 1977, and no one's ever going to convince me otherwise.

But if you're looking for "proof" that Weir et al. were indeed doing some VERY good things in 1989-'90, I'd say start with the 3-night run at Alpine Valley, WI. July 17-19th, and end up at the Branford shows at Nassau in 1990.

Hard to argue those weren't outstanding examples of very prime Dead.

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Poster: SomeDarkHollow Date: Aug 17, 2010 1:58pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: The Grateful Dead peak in 89-90...as per Bobby

Agree that folks around here are pretty much set on their opinions on the band's "peaks" and nothing will shake them. I just wish folks would stop inferring those who don't share their opinion are somehow mentally lacking. Hell, if it's a "peak" to you, than a "peak" it is.

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Poster: grendelschoice Date: Aug 17, 2010 2:01pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: The Grateful Dead peak in 89-90...as per Bobby

couldn't agree more, sir. (Nice to hear from you again, btw...I've been MIA from the board for a while...no real reason....just haven;t felt much like commenting...) but I do think it's crazy to suggest a person is "wrong" about something as subjective as a particualr Dead year or era....part of what makes the band so interesting is that they sound quite different at different times...songs they did in the Keith era (you make like his acoustic sound better than Brent's Hammond B3) sound very different in the Brent era, etc.

The only thing i think we CAN say for sure is that 1995 sucked serious ass ;-)

(Oh, and 1977 is still the best! ;-)

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Poster: SomeDarkHollow Date: Aug 17, 2010 2:06pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: The Grateful Dead peak in 89-90...as per Bobby

If only Jerry had actually had enough energy to suck ass.

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Poster: RBNW....new and improved! Date: Aug 17, 2010 11:51am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: The Grateful Dead peak in 89-90...as per Bobby

BINGO

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Poster: robthewordsmith Date: Aug 17, 2010 11:59am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: The Grateful Dead peak in 89-90...as per Bobby

Bollocks.

Creatively they were pretty much a busted flush from about 76 on. If you can see an upward arc through the 80s good luck to you - pass those rose-tinted glasses when you're done with them.

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Poster: SomeDarkHollow Date: Aug 17, 2010 12:25pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: The Grateful Dead peak in 89-90...as per Bobby

You can always borrow mine.

When you say "arc", if you are meaning a prolonged period of artistic improvment, I'd agree that train had run out of steam. Now I would argue that they were still able to show some spurts of high energy and fantastic artistic output throughout the "later" years, although those spurts became fewer and farther between as the years went on (OK, save the Viagra puns for another time).

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Poster: high flow Date: Aug 17, 2010 12:31pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: The Grateful Dead peak in 89-90...as per Bobby

....and the crusty curmudgeons chime-in like a rusty bell.

1977 was pretty good, by most accounts. 1980 has the acoustic sets from Radio City and the Warfield. 1989 was Loma Prieta earthquake and the boys rallied for the Bay Area. 1990 they played legendary sets with Branford Marsalis. 1991 they eulogized Uncle Bobo on Halloween with a torrential Dark Star.

Perhaps not peaks, these moments were certainly above the timberline.

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Poster: robthewordsmith Date: Aug 17, 2010 1:07pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: The Grateful Dead peak in 89-90...as per Bobby

At least us crusty curmudgeons have a sense of history.

A few anomalous high points don't buck a trend.

I'll keep ringing my rusty bell.